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#1 2007-04-22 15:56:23

pink~hime
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~くはない Vs ~くない

Why would you say かわいくはない Over かわいくない?

And further more, iVe seen ~てはいる A lot In 雅’s 日記 (ては居る!)

Like, whats with that?


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#2 2007-04-22 16:17:54

Faumdano
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Re: ~くはない Vs ~くない

Partial negation and contrast/topicalization.

かわいくはない(、むしろきれいだ)
かわいくない。

知ってはいるが、分からない。
走ってはいる。しかも、好きです。(走ることが好き)

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#3 2007-04-22 16:38:05

Faumdano
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Re: ~くはない Vs ~くない

~ではあるが、…
~ではあるものの、…
~ではありながらも、…
~ではあるけれども、…

etc are pretty common too. "though it is ~, ..."

Last edited by Faumdano (2007-04-22 16:39:13)


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#4 2007-04-22 16:49:17

Faumdano
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Re: ~くはない Vs ~くない

The partial negation thing is a subset of particles that can get forced after a word in its 連用形.

殺しはなかった
殺しもできない
殺しさえすれば
殺しすらしたら
殺ししかできない
殺しだけはさせられない
殺しのみはできない
殺しばかりする
殺しやらできる

etc


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#5 2007-04-22 18:32:51

pink~hime
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Re: ~くはない Vs ~くない

And so what does this partial negation mean...


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#6 2007-04-22 18:38:10

taniwha
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Re: ~くはない Vs ~くない

It means you're negating part of the sentence, not the whole thing. Like in "I don't go to work by train, but by walking." (「仕事に電車では行かない。歩いて行く。」)


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#7 2007-04-22 18:41:02

pink~hime
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Re: ~くはない Vs ~くない

I see, so if i didnt say it, it would mean i dont go to work by train. period.


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#8 2007-04-22 18:44:54

taniwha
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Re: ~くはない Vs ~くない

仕事に行かない "I don't go to work" (at all)
仕事に電車では行かない "I don't go to work by train" (but I still go to work)


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#9 2007-04-22 22:13:55

Re: ~くはない Vs ~くない

かわいくはないcould be used in two situations then, Pink:

1.  (Refuting the statement/notion - whether actually made or assumed to have been made - that someone/something is cute).  No she isn't!
2.  (Denying that someone/something is cute and asserting that it something else.)  She isn't cute;  she's X

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