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#1 2006-08-12 12:54:55

A.G.
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Punctuation input via IME conversion

I don't like ローマ字, as well as the QWERTY layout, so it's long since I've started using the native Japanese keyboard layout. But since I don't have a true Japanese keyboard, the actual layout I get is a little distorted (which is fine for me), and, more important, I can input only very basic punctuation characters: commas, periods, braces, dashes. No question mark or anything else!

But the IME sometimes lists punctuation characters in the list of conversion variants. For example, てん yields a variety of point combinations, and ならば produces '⇒'. What other text strings can be used to input punctuation characters?

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#2 2006-08-12 18:22:08

Cruzz
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Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

Some of these don`t necessarily have that much to do with punctuation exactly, but...
きごう - Something of a master list.
ろしあ - Russian characters
ほし - Stars
まる - Circle
ばつ - x
ぎもんふ - ?
かんたんふ - !

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#3 2006-08-12 22:30:29

richvh
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Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

やじるし lets you produce a variety of arrows, including →、←、↑、↓
ころん will produce :
せみころん will produce ;


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#4 2006-08-13 15:26:06

A.G.
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Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

Thank you. I wonder, what characters like ㍍, or ㍼, or ㊧ are used for... smile

Also there is the ~ character, which is quite often used in online text - what intonation exactly does it convey? And is there a way to input it without browsing through the きごう list?

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#5 2006-08-13 15:39:02

Faumdano
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Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

~ hit the ‘ ~ key on your keyboard, the one beside the 1 key. After a kana all it does is elongate the vowel sound somewhat exageratedly です~ similar to ですゥ I guess.
It's obviously used for other purposes like ~してはいけない; a place holder.

㍍=メートル=metre

㊧ emphasis - there's a whole bunch of these encircled characters.


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#6 2006-08-13 17:48:28

richvh
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Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

Faumdano wrote:

~ hit the ‘ ~ key on your keyboard, the one beside the 1 key.

It doesn't work with the input method he's using - ろ gets mapped there, on a US keyboard.  I've been looking for that myself, so I don't have to click the KANA button to enter it - じょうせん doesn't work, ちるだ doesn't work - anyone know of another name for that symbol? ~ - well, it's on the きごう list, but that's hard to search, and it seems to be used often enough that you'd think there'd be an easier way to find it.


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#7 2006-08-13 18:05:14

taniwha
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Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

try から, it works in canna


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#8 2006-08-13 18:58:05

richvh
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Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

Yup, that does it, gives ~ and 〰

Edit:
すらっしゅ will give / and \

Found a fairly comprehensive list of codes here

Last edited by richvh (2006-08-13 19:10:52)


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#9 2006-08-14 14:28:33

A.G.
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Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

Faumdano wrote:

㍍=メートル=metre

Well, it's pretty obvious what it means. The question is, why would anyone need to create a special character for it... wink

richvh wrote:

Found a fairly comprehensive list of codes here

Wow, it even has builtin smilies smile

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#10 2006-08-14 22:43:52

Yokohama
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Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

A.G. wrote:

Well, it's pretty obvious what it means. The question is, why would anyone need to create a special character for it...

Just because of saving the space: it is in particular useful when the space of a table or chart cell is limited in some format.

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#11 2006-08-14 23:00:01

Faumdano
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Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

Interesting, it seems there are 国字 for metric measurements.

Mass:







Volume:






Distance:






I get the feeling that these REALLY aren't used much seeing as one could just use the correct SI unit instead. mm cm m etc. Though I guess these have the advantage of always being one character.

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#12 2006-08-28 13:40:31

pink~hime
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Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

ハートのタイプし方の?


うまい書くことは、思いつけない。まぁ、変なことはいっぱいあるけど・・

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#13 2006-08-28 13:45:00

pink~hime
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Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

こめじるし⇒※ 

…_〆(・∀・@)


うまい書くことは、思いつけない。まぁ、変なことはいっぱいあるけど・・

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