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A.G.

Regular member

Punctuation input via IME conversion

I don't like ローマ字, as well as the QWERTY layout, so it's long since I've started using the native Japanese keyboard layout. But since I don't have a true Japanese keyboard, the actual layout I get is a little distorted (which is fine for me), and, more important, I can input only very basic punctuation characters: commas, periods, braces, dashes. No question mark or anything else!

But the IME sometimes lists punctuation characters in the list of conversion variants. For example, てん yields a variety of point combinations, and ならば produces '⇒'. What other text strings can be used to input punctuation characters?

Cruzz

Member

Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

Some of these don`t necessarily have that much to do with punctuation exactly, but...
きごう　－　Something of a master list.
ろしあ　－　Russian characters
ほし　－　Stars
まる　－　Circle
ばつ　－　x
ぎもんふ　－　？
かんたんふ　－　！

richvh

日本語なんか楽ちん！

Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

やじるし lets you produce a variety of arrows, including →、←、↑、↓
ころん will produce ：
せみころん will produce ；

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A.G.

Regular member

Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

Thank you. I wonder, what characters like ㍍, or ㍼, or ㊧ are used for...

Also there is the ～ character, which is quite often used in online text - what intonation exactly does it convey? And is there a way to input it without browsing through the きごう list?

Faumdano

Moderator

Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

～ hit the ‘　～ key on your keyboard, the one beside the 1 key. After a kana all it does is elongate the vowel sound somewhat exageratedly です～ similar to ですゥ I guess.
It's obviously used for other purposes like ～してはいけない; a place holder.

㍍=メートル＝metre

㊧ emphasis - there's a whole bunch of these encircled characters.

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richvh

日本語なんか楽ちん！

Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

～ hit the ‘　～ key on your keyboard, the one beside the 1 key.

It doesn't work with the input method he's using - ろ gets mapped there, on a US keyboard.  I've been looking for that myself, so I don't have to click the KANA button to enter it - じょうせん doesn't work, ちるだ doesn't work - anyone know of another name for that symbol? ～ - well, it's on the きごう list, but that's hard to search, and it seems to be used often enough that you'd think there'd be an easier way to find it.

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taniwha

私って天才？

Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

try から, it works in canna

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richvh

日本語なんか楽ちん！

Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

Yup, that does it, gives ～ and 〰

Edit:
すらっしゅ will give ／ and ＼

Found a fairly comprehensive list of codes here

Last edited by richvh (2006-08-13 19:10:52)

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A.G.

Regular member

Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

㍍=メートル＝metre

Well, it's pretty obvious what it means. The question is, why would anyone need to create a special character for it...

Found a fairly comprehensive list of codes here

Wow, it even has builtin smilies

Last edited by A.G. (2006-08-14 14:28:52)

Yokohama

日本語オタク・・・ じゃね～よ！

Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

Well, it's pretty obvious what it means. The question is, why would anyone need to create a special character for it...

Just because of saving the space: it is in particular useful when the space of a table or chart cell is limited in some format.

Faumdano

Moderator

Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

Interesting, it seems there are 国字 for metric measurements.

Mass:
瓱
瓰
甅
瓦
瓧
瓸
瓩
瓲

Volume:
竓
竕
竰
立
竍
竡
竏

Distance:
粍
粉
糎
米
籵
粨
粁

I get the feeling that these REALLY aren't used much seeing as one could just use the correct SI unit instead. mm cm m etc. Though I guess these have the advantage of always being one character.

Last edited by Faumdano (2006-08-14 23:00:38)

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pink~hime

私って天才？

Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

ハートのタイプし方の？

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うまい書くことは、思いつけない。まぁ、変なことはいっぱいあるけど・・

pink~hime

私って天才？

Re: Punctuation input via IME conversion

こめじるし⇒※　

…_〆（・∀・＠）

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うまい書くことは、思いつけない。まぁ、変なことはいっぱいあるけど・・