彼氏彼女の事情 (Page 1 of 4)

Daijirin shows equivalent meaning for 出逢った and 出会った
１ （会う・逢う）

互いに顔を向かい合わせる。場所を決めて対面する。「客に―・う」「明日、いつもの場所で―・おう」

たまたま人と出あう。「駅でばったり知人と―・った」
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頭良し、性格良し、しかも顔良しと三拍子そろった優等生・宮沢雪野 here, と　is "with" with (the) three key attributes
良し is an old fashioned いい（の）
So it is (as close to direct and still intelligible)
good (=high) intelligence: good character: moreover, good appearance/presentation; withal (と) the three key attributes of an honour student are present (in evidence)

EDIT: Beaten to the draw by Faumdano.

宮沢: Chameleon
Arama (?): Tiger

Last edited by Garyuchin (2007-07-29 16:35:36)

表題作ほか、読み切り「トラとカメレオン」にビッグ描きおろしも併録。
表題作ほか、alternative title (?)
読み切り finish reading　(= read it all in ?) + に relocated from particle to preposition
「トラとカメレオン」 tiger and chameleon (- に)
ビッグ描き big picture (overview?)
おろし (launch?)
も
併録 (joint transcript/record)

Is the best I can manage, but no warranty express or implied.

Last edited by Garyuchin (2007-07-29 16:50:19)

実体 I think of as being subtly different, but I can't explain that difference in English. (nor can I guarantee that the thinking is valid.) For all ordinary purposes, I think any difference can be ignored without damage (in English, anyway.)
人から良く見られるためだけに [solely for the sake of being "well thought of"/"looking good to"/"making a good impression in the eyes of" other people.]
てきた - hmm. I'm familiar with the ~てきたんだ　construction...but this one looks to be along the lines of になる for interpretation。 I'll rummage through a book or three.

Last edited by Garyuchin (2007-07-29 17:36:24)

Place and/or time.

do hit the J-J dictionarys (eg, dic.yahoo.co.jp), including for words you think you know: they give usages and meanings for those usages that you generally won't find in a J-E (or P?) dictionary. It will be hard going initially, but it's worth the effort. You should even find explanations for some of the stranger uses of particles (I know 明鏡 and 広辞苑 have them). You should also find things like 良し.

One day I'll learn to understand dictionary definitions BEFORE someone else has to explain them.

Yup, these two seems very similar. From Yahoo!辞書:

その実体［彼の実体］がよく分からない
I do not know 「what it really is [what he really is].

社会の実体をつかむ
(come to) understand the realities of society

実を言えば
to tell the truth／as a matter of fact

ああ言っているが，その実彼は君が好きなんだ
Even though he talks that way, actually he has a crush on you.

実は彼は今日来ないんだ
To tell the truth, he is not coming today.

彼は実は補欠だったが直前になって出場選手に選ばれた
He was actually a substitute player, but at the last moment he was put on the starting roster for the game.

I don't think I can really tell the difference between them, but 実体 feels somewhat stronger and more concrete than 実 alone.

Alright… now that I'm past the foreword, let's move on to the first page.

私は　人の目に　どう映るのだろうか。

高校生Ａ：宮沢さん。
　　　　　ノートありがとう。
　　　　　助かっちゃった。
　　　　　すごいキレイなノートだったよ。
　　　　　さっすが宮沢さん♡

宮沢　　：ううん、これくらい。
　　　　　カゼはもういいの？

高校生Ａ：うん、もうすっかり。

高校生Ｂ：宮沢さーん。
　　　　　被服の提出今日までだよね、私達まだできてないの。

宮沢　　：んー……じゃ、先生にうまくいって、
　　　　　放課後までのばしてもらうよ

高校生Ｃ：宮沢さーーーん。
　　　　　リーダーの訳合ってるか見てほしいのーーーっ

Now the questions:

1) 助かっちゃった. This is the casual version of ~てしまう, right? Would this be the other meaning of しまう?

2) さっすが. What's this? I couldn't find in any dictionary. I got a rough idea, checking the same page on the Portuguese edition… but that would be cheating

3) これくらい. I've seen this used to mean "about", "that much", and similar expressions, but I can't see how it fits on this sentence…

4) 被服の提出. Not really a question, but… The only translation I get for 被服 is "clothing", so this would be "clothing presentation/homework". But the Portuguese edition talks about "domestic economy" on this panel, so I'm intrigued. Gratuitous change, or 被服 can really mean something like that?

5) 合ってる. Is this a casual form of 合っている？ The use of ほしい also seems strange to me. I think she wants to say something like "Could you see if my reader's translation is correct?", but I've never seen this sentence pattern before. Oh well, it's not like I've seen much…

P.S.: Damn,  Firefox doesn't show the heart character ♡ correctly :-(

Edit: Added some commas and full stops here and there, as per taniwha's suggestion.

Last edited by pazu (2007-07-29 23:17:43)

1 yeah
2 さすが
3 might be "about now" (ie, recent cold) こ・そ・あ(・ど？) words can refer to pretty much anything.
4 the Portuguese might be a mistaken translation
5 seems right to me. I'm not sure I've encountered 「～か見る」 either, but it fits with the likes of 「見れば分かる」. And yes, 「～てる」 is generally 「～ている」 (I think it can also be 「～てある」)

2. さすが　(ちなみに漢字で書くと「流石」になります）
3. ううん　これくらい　(to 高校生Ａ）
This sentence is a separate sentence of カゼはもういいの？　ううん　これくらい is an humble (or modest) reply to 高校生Ａ's remark 「すごいきれいなノートだったよ」
Then 宮沢さん is asking the girl カゼはもういいの？
4. 被服の提出　 a sawing assignment to be submitted for Home Economics class.
5. Very common.
間違っていないか見てほしい
壊れていないか見てほしい

Pazu: I'd replied before you'd gotten the image up. If you look closely, the shapes of the speech bubbles indicate places where 読点 or 句点 might be appropriate.

[edit]btw, not a lot of sawing is done in home-economics, but a lot of sewing might be. You'll find the sawing being done in industrial-arts, though

Last edited by taniwha (2007-07-29 22:49:43)

That was more for the benefit of both of you (in case it wasn't just a typo on Osaka_Joe's part). If one has problems differentiating the pronunciation of "sew" and 'saw", it's not a particularly easy mistake to spot. "he sawed off his arm and she sewed it back on for him".